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Feri Wands

topic posted Fri, September 24, 2004 - 3:22 PM by  Awen
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I know Green Wand is granted on initiation. But I was wondering if anyone here posesses another Wand, and how it feels to bear that wand.

Peace,
Awen
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  • Re: Feri Wands

    Fri, September 24, 2004 - 7:16 PM
    I think it all depends on which branch you're coming from... in my training the wands were only mentioned in passing as an old relic from days gone by... it was said that no one used them anymore..

    later I heard that wasn't entirely true, but it seems that there is some difference in who gets which wand and when... in the Bloodrose derived branches (those that still acknowledge the wands, that is) it is taught that the *white* wand is conferred upon initiation, the green would later grant the right to initiate others, while the black represented that of the master. This is quite different from what Victor taught Anaar, namely that the green represents the initiate and healer... the white is the artist or bard, and the black is the master (sorcerer). It would seem that here is another example of how Victor taught different people different things at different times. What does all this mean to the current practitioner of Feri? Probably just don't take anything at face value and figure it out for yourself as you go along. Kind of hard to rely on dogma when you can’t even figure out what the dogma is. ;)
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      Re: Feri Wands

      Fri, October 22, 2004 - 2:19 PM
      Victor taught this arrangement of the wands: green/growth, healing; white/poetry, art, etc.; and black/sorcery to several of us in the coven including Anaar, Jim and myself, and Michele.

      This system isn't intended to signify rank, but specialities. Is a healer lower than an artist? Some Witches may naturally be white wands who are poets, artists or writers. Just as some are inclined to the healing arts/professions including herbalists.

      However, I think this system also works well in terms of stages of development: green for new growth, new initiates; white for the flowering; and black for accumulative knowledge and power attributed to elders.

      These are two different ways of thinking about the wands: specialities vs. levels of proficiency. IMHO, one has to decide which way to work with the wands personally.

      B*B
  • Re: Feri Wands

    Fri, September 24, 2004 - 7:21 PM
    I meant to add that Anaar, Thorn Coyle, Sharon Knight, Michelle Jackson, and myself, gave a panel at this year's Pantheacon entitled "The White Wand: The Artist in Feri" which was all about (you guessed it) the white wand. This whole wand thing was explained to be as being symbolic and as such it is more something that the Goddess confers upon the individual rather than a person or teacher. So I suppose that in that respect I hold a white wand, in that I am an artist and that my Feri practice usually expresses itself that way through me. Other people who adhere to the wand system may see it differently, but that's my take. I certainly do identify as an artist, and as a Feri, so it works for me. But no one ever *gave* me a white wand in ritual or anything... although the Star Goddess gave me a wand in vision once...
    • Re: Feri Wands

      Fri, September 24, 2004 - 9:27 PM
      I was just curious about the feeling of having a wand for the individual. I know Feri witches are *usually* not hierarchical, but then I know mileages out there vary.

      I totally understand it's a more Goddess-individual relationship that the wand represents, and that's what I wanted to hear more about. For example, you said, "I am an artist and (...) my Feri practice usually expresses itself that way through me". It's precisely this 'that way' that I'd be interested in.
      • Re: Feri Wands

        Fri, October 22, 2004 - 4:43 PM
        Back at the time that I was initiated, Victor was teaching that the White wand was given at Initiation, Green Wand was the Wand of a Master, and the Black Wand the wand of a Grand Master. I give the actual wand when someone I have initiated has completed a year and a day after their initiation, but they are considered a White wand from the time of their initiation. Green and Black Wands are only conferred at the discression of the Peacock Lord in my lineage.

        For my part what is different about being a wanded initiate is more about the responisibilities that that particular wand brings with it. Going from one to the next, was like being reinitiated in a lot of ways, whole new karmic fall out, the whole experience of feeling like one is on a hallucinogenic trip. Really though most of this is not something you can explain, there aren't words to explain it properly.

        And in my experience, it isn't a more Goddess-individual relationship. The wands haven't represented my relationship with the goddess, it is power and a changing of the power within one. I think most people are very very confused about what the wands represent, and what they do to one. It isn't really even something to share with those who have not been initiated in my opinion. I realize others have shared their experiences, but for the most part the explanations don't even begin to explain it, and I think that is as it should be really. Leave the mystery to those who will receive them. If you really want to know what the mystery is, go through them, and remember, you can't go through those mysteries on your own, you have to be taken through them.
        • Re: Feri Wands

          Sat, October 23, 2004 - 11:45 AM
          At the risk of sounding heretical (does that make me a Feritic?) I have also had some psychic "pullings" towards some wands of other colors... what of this Red Wand that tugs at my brain? (Or even this Violet Wand?) I have *never* heard any Feri lore about anything but the Green, White, and the Black, but still there they are... in my head, waiting for... something...

          I'd be interested in talking to you offlist, Dom, about your wand experiences, if you don't mind.
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    Re: Feri Wands

    Fri, October 22, 2004 - 2:33 PM
    I have both a green and a white wand. Jim and I are amateur herbalists, and studied herbalism in Ashland. Before he died, Victor said that everybody in Black Lotus also held a white wand because we were all artists and writers. Storm's dream about the Goddess giving him a wand in a vision reminds me of a similar dream I had several years ago.

    I dreamed that a shamanic friend in Ashland gave me a Tarot reading, and the card he pulled was the Three of Wands. The image on the card was of a green wand, a white wand, and a black wand, and all three were glowing. Our friend was working at the Oregon Country Fair that weekend, and when he came home he said he had a gift for me. I said, I dreamed about you, and he suggested I tell him my dream first. Then he told us that his booth was under a hazel tree, and he pulled out his gift to me: three branches he had cut from the tree.
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      Re: Feri Wands

      Fri, October 22, 2004 - 3:03 PM
      I meant Storm's *vision* of the Goddess giving him a wand reminded me of my dream. :-) Not his dream of a vision. ;D
  • Re: Feri Wands

    Thu, February 17, 2005 - 10:13 AM
    I find the idea of specialization antithetical to Feri which, ostensibly, teaches us to be able to do all things well.

    I'm a gardener with a green thumb, I'm a sorcerer and I'm a graphic artist by trade. That's all three wands right there. So who needs the wands?
    • Re: Feri Wands

      Thu, February 17, 2005 - 11:33 AM
      Hello there, Tim! :)

      I'm not exactly sure how it can be antithetical to Feri to specialize in something. Specialization just seems to be human nature and Feri is not separate from that. Doing all things well is not the same as excelling in all things. I think that in our training it is ideal to expose everyone to everything, but not everyone is going to be talented at say, divination, preferring instead perhaps healing work. I can do healing OK, but wouldn't call myself a healer. I leave that for those whom it is their calling. *My* particular calling is to be an artist and a priest, but I don't expect all Feries to share that particular bent.

      I take it by your example that you feel (at least symbolically in terms of this conversation) that you possess all three wands. Right on. Depending on how we look at it, I might not feel that I possess the Green, as I am not an herbalist, gardener, or healer. (Some say that the Green is possessed by every Feri initiate, though, so who knows.) I find it to be an interesting piece of lore and I support people's right to acknowledge them as they see fit. I can certainly see them as representing different schools of specialization, but when I do then I do not feel it is appropriate to stop at just the previously discussed three. For me it's sort of like this... Feri training is your general college education... the wands can then represent your major, and then even post-grad school, offering an opportunity for those of like mind to rally around that particular symbol/practice in order to perfect their skills. I realize that's probably not anywhere close to how others see the wands, but that's just me.

      It’s good to see you on here! How have you been? It’s been a long time!

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